Re: Drag Racing Buds
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 12:59 pm
I would like to say something else and will do so via this thread, not privately. As mentioned, you guys are who made this stuff public, for everyone to read fodder. I don't by the way disagree with some of what's said.
I've never said you couldn't reply to whatever thread you care to. I suggested your beef with a dealer should have been done privately.
1. I didn't dispute any of the what's mentioned here.
2. Two sides to every story. I won't go here in spite of having heard much from Mike on this.
3. I've heard how damaged you are for months now. That's my translation of "poor pitiful me".
4. I "truthfully" know at that race, Mike didn't have the bike for sale.
5. Yes
6. I have no knowledge of this.
7. Ok, if you say so.
8. I've never had a crystal ball big enough to know when something is going to break and sometimes if it's broken if I'm riding it.
9. The "bitching" I refer to are the personal attacks you continually make and suggest you're going to continue to make.
10. I didn't want to imply what anyone can afford. I just want to suggest there's high costs associated with these type bikes vs a reliable mass production bike like a Honda. It's totally none of my business what you can or can't afford. I perhaps shouldn't have said anything about this. Sorry. I regret hearing any owner has to spend unexpected dollars for repairs...unless it's purchased "as is" and agreed to that.
11. There are 2 sides to this "truth" you reference. I do in fact know the truth as related by Mike who I've known for years. I don't know you and stand behind Mike with respect to the chain of events...which you've never once mentioned.
12. I'm not going to have anyone contact you. If they don't have the stones to say what they think directly to you, my suggesting they do so doesn't mean squat. I have no issue with you here. There are folks that don't like you and probably more that don't like me. So goes it. I had the balls to confront you hoping you'd take your snide remarks away from the public forum. I've got Mike's number if you need it.
13. Again, I don't know specifics here. I do know I rode next to that bike MANY times and would have suspected any known or on-going problem would have been addressed as it was Mike's personal ride. I'm not saying nothing was wrong as I had no knowledge of whether it did or didn't. I'm saying it shouldn't have been handled via posts on a web board. That's my beef.
14. I'll be the first to tell you I think that's great.
This can of worms was opened not by me but by you guys on two boards and over the course of months now. My involvement is as stated before. I've view Mike as a friend and a capable and respectable business person. Your continued dialogue about "lacking in", "lied to", etc was unacceptable to me before and is so now via waving this under everyone's nose. It's a foregone conclusion that no dealer or MFG can get involved in participation on these boards. It's not professional, not good business, and as such, leaves them succeptable to being pummeled without opportunity to correct inaccurate or overblown statements and issues. I personally believe yours to be so based upon "the other side of the story".
I will conclude this by again suggesting I'm glad you guys have whatever problem resolved, glad the bike is in the hands of passionate owners who seem to greatly appreciate it, and simply suggest that you either let this thing die a quick death as far as public personal sniping, keep it out of the public domain, or expect to take some shit from those that value Mike and Summit either for friendship or business reasons. You have any friends you won't take up for when they're being bashed? I don't. I've said all I'm going to say to you in public...I promise.
Elliot
I've never said you couldn't reply to whatever thread you care to. I suggested your beef with a dealer should have been done privately.
1. I didn't dispute any of the what's mentioned here.
2. Two sides to every story. I won't go here in spite of having heard much from Mike on this.
3. I've heard how damaged you are for months now. That's my translation of "poor pitiful me".
4. I "truthfully" know at that race, Mike didn't have the bike for sale.
5. Yes
6. I have no knowledge of this.
7. Ok, if you say so.
8. I've never had a crystal ball big enough to know when something is going to break and sometimes if it's broken if I'm riding it.
9. The "bitching" I refer to are the personal attacks you continually make and suggest you're going to continue to make.
10. I didn't want to imply what anyone can afford. I just want to suggest there's high costs associated with these type bikes vs a reliable mass production bike like a Honda. It's totally none of my business what you can or can't afford. I perhaps shouldn't have said anything about this. Sorry. I regret hearing any owner has to spend unexpected dollars for repairs...unless it's purchased "as is" and agreed to that.
11. There are 2 sides to this "truth" you reference. I do in fact know the truth as related by Mike who I've known for years. I don't know you and stand behind Mike with respect to the chain of events...which you've never once mentioned.
12. I'm not going to have anyone contact you. If they don't have the stones to say what they think directly to you, my suggesting they do so doesn't mean squat. I have no issue with you here. There are folks that don't like you and probably more that don't like me. So goes it. I had the balls to confront you hoping you'd take your snide remarks away from the public forum. I've got Mike's number if you need it.
13. Again, I don't know specifics here. I do know I rode next to that bike MANY times and would have suspected any known or on-going problem would have been addressed as it was Mike's personal ride. I'm not saying nothing was wrong as I had no knowledge of whether it did or didn't. I'm saying it shouldn't have been handled via posts on a web board. That's my beef.
14. I'll be the first to tell you I think that's great.
This can of worms was opened not by me but by you guys on two boards and over the course of months now. My involvement is as stated before. I've view Mike as a friend and a capable and respectable business person. Your continued dialogue about "lacking in", "lied to", etc was unacceptable to me before and is so now via waving this under everyone's nose. It's a foregone conclusion that no dealer or MFG can get involved in participation on these boards. It's not professional, not good business, and as such, leaves them succeptable to being pummeled without opportunity to correct inaccurate or overblown statements and issues. I personally believe yours to be so based upon "the other side of the story".
I will conclude this by again suggesting I'm glad you guys have whatever problem resolved, glad the bike is in the hands of passionate owners who seem to greatly appreciate it, and simply suggest that you either let this thing die a quick death as far as public personal sniping, keep it out of the public domain, or expect to take some shit from those that value Mike and Summit either for friendship or business reasons. You have any friends you won't take up for when they're being bashed? I don't. I've said all I'm going to say to you in public...I promise.
Elliot